Garfield was in on it. Adrien found the Miraculous shortly before Renard appeared. Several months later, Garfield found out, and they'd been switching ever since.
When father just appeared from our perspective, it was a shock. Didn't trust it. But Garfield came up with the idea of us both jumping Ladybug at once since we didn't need the Miraculous to transform, and it'd catch her off enough for us to hopefully get at least one earring.
We knew how to get Ladybug. We were waiting to somehow lose father again. And I....I decided that I wasn't going to let it happen. You were new, I could win if I just stopped caring about the consequences, we could get them quickly, make sure we didn't lose him, and maybe figure out how to get her.
That explains a lot. My Lady and I had assumed Renard had two personalities. We never considered the possibility of two people using the Miraculous.
[Nino feels a pit in his stomach. Yeah it's the storm's fault, but it still chilled him to hear such details.]
I'm glad at least I was able to stop you in a way then. I don't know what I would have done without my Lady. I wonder why Garfield didn't try to kill me while I was in Medbay yesterday.
I hadn't wanted to, at first, but we were both too protective for our own good.
Because it'd have destroyed me? You were the first person we let in since Kirika. Chat Noir? Yeah, we could delude ourselves that far. Not our friend. Not my best friend. He was plannig to do sone stupid suicide run, let himself get destroyed as long as he got it, but I talked him down via the power of a pretty major mental breakdown.
[He can't help but cringe. Looks like he dodged a bullet there since if Garfield actually went ahead and attempted to kill him, he mostly likely would have been screwed.]
And that's why you ran when you saw who I was under the mask.
[Which makes sense 'cause even in an AU, there's no way Adrien could ever kill him.]
Renard's motivation was love. To fix the lonely, broken world. To....to risk breaking part of what he had left was too much. He relied too much on self lies and mental gymnastics, to tear anything significant down was going to make things start falling apart.
[He looked over.] Still loved you, man. You helped a lot in keeping Adrien centered, to remember why he tried to keep his moral compass somewhat intact.
[He smiled at that.] True. You're a really good friend.
[He paused, expression failing, hands clasping together in his lap, looking away again.]
I don't....I don't want to be....dishonest, I guess. This Renard thing....the thing that's messing me up so much is I...I get how I got there. A little more bitter, a little less kind, a lot more hurt. And....
[He closed his eyes, and let out a deep sigh.] And keyed into one of the few things that have....have led to that dark temptation. I don't want to hurt people, I don't want to kill anyone, but there's been moments, when I thought I almost lost Ladybug, when Papillon had my father, and suddenly the idea didn't seem so impossible I'd cross a line.
I would never go after people I love.
But when it comes to the people I love being in danger or being taken, there...there's enough anger and fear there.
[His hands were clenched together tightly, claws digging into the material on the back of his hands.] I don't know if that changes your thoughts, but if it did, I can't....I can't just say I would never, ever cross a line.
[Nino frowns and looks at him with concern. He places a hand on Chat's shoulder.]
We all have our bad sides and the ability to do bad things. Remember Bubbler? The important thing is choosing not to fall into that temptation, and being a good person. You're a lot stronger than you give yourself credit for, man.
I already said I forgive you and that's not changing.
I don't know about that. I always thought it was touching, in a kind of demented way. Pretty effectively negated a lot of anxiety I'd mess up our friendship too.
...I'm...not actually sure that's true? I mean, its possible, but Ladybug and I have bad personalities for Akumas.
Not that we're too good. But Ladybug is pretty quick to solve problems, Papillon has a short time to offer her anything. And I quickly lose anything for Papillon to burn.
With Tikki and Plagg to be immediate support, the window doesn't last long.
He's certainly tried here. Fought him twice during the Endos thing. But the rules are different. People can resist, so it might be he wants to test my willpower.
[Oh geez. He was not expecting that. Nino manages to catch him and hold him up. He's not sure if it's a sign Chat needs to lay down or he just wants a hug.]
[He's actually purring? Yeah he did that too when he was high on cat nip, but this is a first. If the situation weren't so awkward, it would be funny.]
Cat instincts...
[Should he tell him to avoid the forge in case Adela hasn't cleared the cap nip yet?]
Good to know. I'll make sure never to use any laser pointers then.
[Guess he really can't hide anything from his best bud. Should have expected as much.] Remember when I accidentally made you and nearly everyone else deaf trying to make that music CD with bending? Papillion kind of made a threat to me under a lock.
[Again, he grins at that. He's so gonna tease him about that later. He does get serious again though.]
Okay.
Sure, just a sec. [He removes an arm so he can reach for his pocket. He takes out his phone and searches for his old post. Once he has that post on his phone, it only takes a couple seconds to find the thread in question. Hope Chat enjoys the middle finger emoji he sent Papillion.]
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Date: 2017-11-27 08:59 pm (UTC)When father just appeared from our perspective, it was a shock. Didn't trust it. But Garfield came up with the idea of us both jumping Ladybug at once since we didn't need the Miraculous to transform, and it'd catch her off enough for us to hopefully get at least one earring.
We knew how to get Ladybug. We were waiting to somehow lose father again. And I....I decided that I wasn't going to let it happen. You were new, I could win if I just stopped caring about the consequences, we could get them quickly, make sure we didn't lose him, and maybe figure out how to get her.
[Action]
Date: 2017-11-27 09:17 pm (UTC)[Nino feels a pit in his stomach. Yeah it's the storm's fault, but it still chilled him to hear such details.]
I'm glad at least I was able to stop you in a way then. I don't know what I would have done without my Lady. I wonder why Garfield didn't try to kill me while I was in Medbay yesterday.
[Since that was a legit concern.]
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Date: 2017-11-27 09:25 pm (UTC)Because it'd have destroyed me? You were the first person we let in since Kirika. Chat Noir? Yeah, we could delude ourselves that far. Not our friend. Not my best friend. He was plannig to do sone stupid suicide run, let himself get destroyed as long as he got it, but I talked him down via the power of a pretty major mental breakdown.
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Date: 2017-11-27 09:33 pm (UTC)And that's why you ran when you saw who I was under the mask.
[Which makes sense 'cause even in an AU, there's no way Adrien could ever kill him.]
Re: [Action]
Date: 2017-11-27 09:43 pm (UTC)[He looked over.] Still loved you, man. You helped a lot in keeping Adrien centered, to remember why he tried to keep his moral compass somewhat intact.
[Action]
Date: 2017-11-27 09:54 pm (UTC)It's what friends do, bro.
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Date: 2017-11-28 03:17 am (UTC)[He paused, expression failing, hands clasping together in his lap, looking away again.]
I don't....I don't want to be....dishonest, I guess. This Renard thing....the thing that's messing me up so much is I...I get how I got there. A little more bitter, a little less kind, a lot more hurt. And....
[He closed his eyes, and let out a deep sigh.] And keyed into one of the few things that have....have led to that dark temptation. I don't want to hurt people, I don't want to kill anyone, but there's been moments, when I thought I almost lost Ladybug, when Papillon had my father, and suddenly the idea didn't seem so impossible I'd cross a line.
I would never go after people I love.
But when it comes to the people I love being in danger or being taken, there...there's enough anger and fear there.
[His hands were clenched together tightly, claws digging into the material on the back of his hands.] I don't know if that changes your thoughts, but if it did, I can't....I can't just say I would never, ever cross a line.
[Action]
Date: 2017-11-28 03:27 am (UTC)We all have our bad sides and the ability to do bad things. Remember Bubbler? The important thing is choosing not to fall into that temptation, and being a good person. You're a lot stronger than you give yourself credit for, man.
I already said I forgive you and that's not changing.
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Date: 2017-11-28 04:37 am (UTC)[But...it was Nino. Nino who went Bubbler for him. He supposed he would understand.]
[He sighs and then unclenches his hands, putting one over Nino's.] Sometimes you feel too good to be true. You know that?
[Action]
Date: 2017-11-28 04:44 am (UTC)Well there's always thinking about the Bubbler to fix that.
[He's half joking though there's always the fear that he could become the Bubbler again as long as Papillion is still around.]
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Date: 2017-11-28 05:41 am (UTC)[Action]
Date: 2017-11-28 05:52 am (UTC)Then again, you and your Lady have Miraculouses so you're safe from getting Akumatized.
[At least he assumes that's the case. After all, both back home and in that AU, Papillion had yet to try Akumaizing either Ladybugs or Chat Noirs.]
Re: [Action]
Date: 2017-11-28 06:21 am (UTC)Not that we're too good. But Ladybug is pretty quick to solve problems, Papillon has a short time to offer her anything. And I quickly lose anything for Papillon to burn.
With Tikki and Plagg to be immediate support, the window doesn't last long.
[Action]
Date: 2017-11-28 06:24 am (UTC)[So much for that idea of making himself Chat again if he feels too bad to protect himself.]
Re: [Action]
Date: 2017-11-28 06:41 am (UTC)....
[Nudges his side.] You got the worried look.
[Action]
Date: 2017-11-28 07:03 am (UTC)[That surprises him and he tries his best to force a smile.]
I-I'm fine. As long as I keep my chin up, he can't get to me.
Re: [Action]
Date: 2017-11-28 07:20 am (UTC)[There is a looooong moment where Chat stares at him.]
[Then he sighs.]
[And immediately drapes his arms over his shoulders and flops against him, letting Nino either hold him up or fall over.]
[Action]
Date: 2017-11-28 07:27 am (UTC)Bro...?
Re: [Action]
Date: 2017-11-28 07:33 am (UTC)Gonna try and pull that on me, I will require purr therapy. Its the right frequency to help relieve stress.
[Action]
Date: 2017-11-28 07:40 am (UTC)Cat instincts...
[Should he tell him to avoid the forge in case Adela hasn't cleared the cap nip yet?]
Re: [Action]
Date: 2017-11-28 07:52 am (UTC)Seriously though, you have that.... [He purses his lips.] The not dealing and pretending you are look people get. [He sees it a lot.]
Re: [Action]
Date: 2017-11-28 07:57 am (UTC)[Guess he really can't hide anything from his best bud. Should have expected as much.] Remember when I accidentally made you and nearly everyone else deaf trying to make that music CD with bending? Papillion kind of made a threat to me under a lock.
[He has his phone so he can show him if needed.]
Re: [Action]
Date: 2017-11-28 09:11 am (UTC)Still, I am serious about the touchy. Tell me if its too much, I only want to actually annoy you if you start making a bad habit.
[He growls, frowning.] Of course he did. Let me see?
[Action]
Date: 2017-11-28 09:21 am (UTC)Okay.
Sure, just a sec. [He removes an arm so he can reach for his pocket. He takes out his phone and searches for his old post. Once he has that post on his phone, it only takes a couple seconds to find the thread in question. Hope Chat enjoys the middle finger emoji he sent Papillion.]
Re: [Action]
Date: 2017-11-28 09:28 am (UTC)Hmmm....
[He's still leaning against Nino, purring away as he looks it over.] So, how much did he get into your head and how quickly did you notice?
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